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			We're all going on the march tomorrow! - Helen's journal and online home In which an old dog attempts to learn new tricks.




			11:35 am June 22nd, 2018

heleninwales


	We're all going on the march tomorrow!
	I must apologise for lack of engagement here, but Brexit is eating my life. I suppose if I was still working full-time, I'd have to push it to the back of my mind, but I'm retired and thus keep obsessively following every twist and turn. Most people are just carrying on oblivious to what's happening, which doesn't help because it makes me feel like a character in one of those horror movies where evil demons are breaking through from another dimension but only a chosen few can see them. I'm sure people will tell me not to worry and it'll all work out OK in the end, but right now things seem to be heading for disaster. One problem is that the party that's supposed to oppose the government is, instead, gleefully backing them all the way. :( Anyway, I do what I can to support fellow anti-Brexit campaigners, I donate to what I think are useful activities, like the "Bollocks to Brexit" stickers being handed out to young people at music festivals around the country and the SODEM permanent protest outside parliament. And tomorrow we'll be marching again with the demand for a People's Vote on the final deal. Possibly clutching at straws, but who knows? I have my EU flag, EU hairband and I've sewn my own stars onto a blue t-shirt.

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			Thread started by grey853

	From: grey853	Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:22 am (UTC)		(Link)

Good luck with your protest.

I understand your frustration with government. I'm very ashamed of my country right now because of the racist and inhumane immigration policies. That's just one of many things, but for now it's the worst. Since Trump was elected my country is becoming unrecognizable as my America.

So, protest and I hope it can make a difference.

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 22nd, 2018 08:42 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Thanks. I am so sad about the way some things are going in the US but I keep reminding myself that there are many good, kind people who are appalled at what Trump is doing. I just pray that the good people will win in the end.

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	From: grey853	Date: June 23rd, 2018 11:42 am (UTC)		(Link)

Appalled and offended, scared and feeling like we've been dropped down a rabbit hole. It's not just Trump but the republicans who remain silent when he does and says outrageous and racist things. Alienating our allies, starting a trade war with them, praising dictators and attacking the press.these are all things that are destroying our country. Now making what amounts to concentration camps for asylum seekers and children, well, I think that was a step too far for even his republican cronies.

I don't even recognize this as my country anymore. The racists are coming out of the woodwork because they have one of their own in power in the White House. I do hope we right ourselves in the end. It's not too late, but it sure is frightening and it's a horrible feeling to be ashamed of your own country's government..

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			Thread started by seaivy

	From: seaivy	Date: June 22nd, 2018 01:30 pm (UTC)		(Link)

i admite you!!!!!
you are doing something!

Is there any chance Britain can regain it's position?

May All Go Well!!!

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 27th, 2018 01:53 pm (UTC)		(Link)

We haven't actually left yet, so there is still hope that the process can be stopped.

Britain has lost a lot of credibility by doing something so stupid on such a slender majority in the referendum. A majority of slightly less than 2% of the vote is NOT the basis for such a huge change or to strip valuable rights from UK citizens. There was sleight of hand in the way the referendum was set up because a supermajority clause should have been built in.

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			Thread started by Sherwood Smith

	From: sartorias	Date: June 22nd, 2018 03:50 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Good for you!!!

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 27th, 2018 01:55 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Thanks. The march was amazing. Estimates vary between 200,000 and half a million, but we Remainers are going to fight this to the bitter end, and if we can't stop the UK from leaving, we'll just turn into the campaign to rejoin. Demographics are on our side, which is one reason why we're fighting so hard. It's the prospects of our young people that are being damaged by the idiots who think we can return to a mythical 1950s when we still had the remnants of Empire.

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	From: sartorias	Date: June 27th, 2018 02:56 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Excellent. If I was over there I'd join you . . . but first we have a lethal ass clown to get rid of first.

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 28th, 2018 07:35 am (UTC)		(Link)

Your idiot of a president is due to visit here in a couple of weeks. There is a huge protest planned, but we won't be going to London again so soon. Besides, even though there are links between Brexit and the Trump victory which may yet lead to prosecutions (one can hope!), I want to keep my focus on Brexit, so I'll do the local-ish anti-Brexit protest instead.

Today I will search the garage for cardboard and a suitable stick to make a sign!

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	From: sartorias	Date: June 28th, 2018 01:09 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I trust there will be plenty of sane people on hand to show Trump exactly what they think of him. Lord, I hope so.

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 29th, 2018 07:40 am (UTC)		(Link)

Actually, having seen some tweets about his itinerary, it looks as though they're keeping him away from London. Blenheim, Chequers (official Prime Minister's country house) and Windsor seem to be tipped as the places he'll be taken.

I just feel sorry for the poor Queen having to meet Trump, but she's had decades of experience in maintaining frosty politeness to tyrants and a very well trained staff, so I think she'll be OK.

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	From: sartorias	Date: June 29th, 2018 01:51 pm (UTC)		(Link)

She has got to be inured to having to be polite to scumbags, I'm sure. And they won't subject her to him long, I'm equally sure. That would constitute elder abuse.

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			Thread started by Karin Margareta

	From: karinfromnosund	Date: June 22nd, 2018 08:47 pm (UTC)		(Link)

I wish you good luck

For the moment my fascination with Britain leaving the EU has been eclipsed by my utter horror at what the Swedish election in September might lead to. It's a good thing you have found something to do!

And your t-shirt looks very nice.

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	From: eve_prime	Date: June 23rd, 2018 06:29 am (UTC)		(Link)

Sweden has not been in the news here (western U.S.) at all - we are so overwhelmed with Trump that it's rare for us to even hear about Britain. I've heard that there's concern about nationalist extremism in Hungary. Is Sweden also having problems with nationalists against immigration?

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	From: karinfromnosund	Date: June 23rd, 2018 09:23 am (UTC)		(Link)

We are having problems with everyone against immigration.

All the large parties are picking it up. They (ok, not all) are actually considering cooperation with the Sweden Democrats (nationalists/racists). Someone I know said: In four years we went from "Open your hearts" to this.

It's frightening.

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	From: eve_prime	Date: June 23rd, 2018 06:08 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Oh, I'm sorry. That's sad.

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 27th, 2018 02:00 pm (UTC)		(Link)

Immigration has been the main driving force behind Brexit, though of course many leave voters deny it and try to say it's about sovereignty. It's led to a huge increase in racist incidents which is saddening.

Ironically, the downturn in the UK economy because of Brexit has reduced the numbers of people wanting to come here.

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			Thread started by eve_prime

	From: eve_prime	Date: June 23rd, 2018 06:26 am (UTC)		(Link)

We live in such challenging times, and it's bewildering that we should even have gotten to this place. I feel very fortunate that, so far, I can mostly try to take the long view, but it's so upsetting that we should even have to be on this "detour," if that's what it is.

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	From: heleninwales	Date: June 27th, 2018 02:20 pm (UTC)		(Link)

One problem in the UK is that there is no opposition to speak of because the Labour party go on about "The Will of the People" just as much as the Tories do.

We're sleepwalking into a disaster and neither the government nor the opposition seem to realise it. They think they're just playing political games, as though it's a debate they can win and not a real thing that will destroy jobs and wreck lives. :(

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	From: eve_prime	Date: June 27th, 2018 07:11 pm (UTC)		(Link)

It's like the politicians are all getting the thrill of playing in political "theatre" without making the connection between their play-acting world and reality. That's both fascinating and very sad.

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