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In which an old dog attempts to learn new tricks.
New Google+
Anyone have any thoughts on the new Google+? Anyone part of the beta testing?

I have never liked Facebook, but Google+ seems to provide all the best bits of Facebook with the great advantage of not being Facebook. I mean, I had to set up two Facebook accounts because the stuff I might want to post regarding family stuff would be of no interest to my online friends, and vice versa, not to mention the complication of using one name for writing/hanging out online and another with family. Of course the name problem would still apply, but the circles look useful so you can keep posts relevant to the readers. Just like LJ really! :)

The other problem I have with Facebook is that I find it.... well, not to put too fine a point on it... tacky looking.

I know that sites that don't offer paid accounts have to make their money out of advertising, but if you want to have a professional page where you can engage with your fans/clients/supporters/customers, who wants those awful "One strange tip to get rid of belly fat" or "Clever Mom Reveals £4 Trick to a Wrinkle Free Face" adverts down the side of your page?[*]

Of course I have no idea whether Google+ will be any better, nor whether people will shift to it from Facebook, but I am curious.

Having said that, I have no intention of abandoning LJ

[*] I suppose it's possible that they're just trying to tell me something about my appearance and that other people get different adverts!

Current Mood: cheerful decompressing after a couple of busy weeks

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carandol From: carandol Date: June 30th, 2011 09:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Don't know much about Google+. I'm not a big fan of Facebook myself, but whether it would be possible to persuade all my friends to switch, or whether I'd just end up with yet *another* site to check every day, I don't know.

I've got the Adblock plugin installed, and I don't see any adverts in Facebook. In fact I'd forgotten it had adverts! :-)
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: June 30th, 2011 09:58 am (UTC) (Link)
whether I'd just end up with yet *another* site to check every day, I don't know

That is a downside, definitely and if people didn't shift, then there's no point in having an account. I already read LJ (which includes some feeds from other blogs). Then I have a Blogger account where I follow a few people. I look in on Twitter a few times a week and check the family Facebook account. Having to check yet one more would be a pain.

Re the Adblock plugin, that's certainly a solution for me personally, but it's not going to stop my friends/students/customers seeing adds.
birdsedge From: birdsedge Date: June 30th, 2011 11:47 am (UTC) (Link)
I've almost taken myself off facebook so many times in the last year or so, but now I've managed to block a lot of the things that annoy me, so I'm sticking with it for the time being. I try to check it daily, but maybe only manage four or five times a week. I don't post updates all that often. If there was an alternative that was a bit ore classy I'd give it a go and leave FB without a backward glance.

I have finally given up on myspace completely. I have three music identities on there and have now posted a notice to all of them to say that I will no longer be updating. I've left the music tracks up for listeners and there are redirects to my websites for the folk club, the agency and for Artisan.
coth From: coth Date: June 30th, 2011 11:15 am (UTC) (Link)
Hate Facebook (I get those ads too). No interest in acquiring another active site. Am about to go back to having a desktop client for email cos I don't like Gmail ads.

Grrr. Bloody internet. Keeps moving when I could do with it standing still for a while.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:13 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm normally a couple of years behind everyone else and was still on Usenet when most people had moved to MySpace and LJ. :)
asakiyume From: asakiyume Date: July 1st, 2011 10:45 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm curious about what that was like. How did you realize what was up? And would you say that people moved to MySpace and LJ more or less simultaneously?

Do people still use Usenet at all?
dendrophilous From: dendrophilous Date: June 30th, 2011 11:47 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm intrigued by Google+, and will set up an account when it's available. If other people use it, great. Only two of my friends ever started using Buzz, but this looks like there's more of a point to it.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:23 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm certainly interested in exploring it once I get the chance. Of course the big question is who is going to move there or have an additional account? However wonderful it is in principle, it's the people that count.
asakiyume From: asakiyume Date: June 30th, 2011 01:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
Does the new black strip at the top of the Google homepage have to do with Google+? When I saw that, I thought, "Huh, that looks like LJ's little navigation strip."

I don't think I'm inclined to join any new social networking sites unless there's some *reason* to. I'm not looking for new ways to spend my time!

If a bunch of people I knew were over there being active over there, or if some hopping, exciting group or something were active over there, I'd join up, maybe. Otherwise, I can just wave at everyone and tell them to have fun!
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:26 am (UTC) (Link)
I think the new black strip is just part of a redesign of the look of the Google page. You need an invite for the Google+ and it's still in testing at the moment.

The big question is definitely who is going to move there or have an additional account. However wonderful it is in principle, it's the people that count.

But seeing as I loathe Facebook, I was wondering if the new things would be a viable alternative.
asakiyume From: asakiyume Date: July 1st, 2011 10:56 am (UTC) (Link)
You've been through a number of moves, it sounds like--or at least the move from Usenet to LJ, that you mentioned up above. My experience--only becoming active online in 2006--has been kind of like a diaspora..... some people way more active now on Twitter, some more active on Facebook, some more active on Tumblr, some just no longer active at all, as far as I can see. Nothing seems to duplicate what LJ was for me in my first couple of years.

But I think to myself, part of what made those first two years so wonderful was that I went from knowing no one at all online to knowing hundreds of people online. But now I'm not so interested in meeting lots of new people (I still do like meeting new people, but it's a matter of how much time I have. When I knew no one, I could invest a whole lot of time in each new relationship, but that's not as true when I want to spend time maintaining the relationships I already have). Now I'm mainly yearning after the people I miss, the ones who have disappeared. For Google+ (or any new thing) to work for me, **I'd** have to change--I'd have to go back to something like the wide-eyed enthusiasm I had in 2006.

I'll keep my mind open, though, and see what develops.
julesjones From: julesjones Date: June 30th, 2011 06:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'll set up at least one account, mostly so that I have somewhere to play with Google's new toy because apart from the Facebook-alike privacy cock-up with Buzz, I like playing with Google's new toys. Also, I presume Google will not suddenly acquire Facebook's fetish for wanting to know your meatspace identity and insisting on tying all your online identities together, which is why I have never had and will never have a Facebook account.

Not abandoning LJ/DW, though.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:31 am (UTC) (Link)
I missed out on the Buzz thing, so have no idea what that was about.

Basically I'm happy here in LJ land(with occasionally forays into Twitter), but it does seem to be getting quieter here and there are things that the LJ format doesn't do as well as an old-fashioned Usenet thread could do.

Anyway, I will certainly have a look at Google+ when I get the chance because Facebook doesn't suit me at all and I won't post photos there because of their policy on using your content for whatever purpose they see fit.
From: zeborahnz Date: June 30th, 2011 10:24 pm (UTC) (Link)
"Like Facebook but not Facebook" seems to be xkcd's opinion of it too. I'm not overly interested in it.

(I'm pretty sure all women on Facebook get weightloss ads. If you're a woman you must be terrified of Teh Fat, donchaknow.)
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:41 am (UTC) (Link)
I wouldn't mind so much if the weightloss adds were genuine, eg to something like Weightwatchers, but that "One weird old tip" is a scam that has been exposed in several places. Facebook don't seem to care that they are helping criminals make more money. :(

I suppose we'll find out in due course whether the new Google thing is any use or not, but I saw the xkcd cartoon and was intrigued to know more.
khiemtran From: khiemtran Date: June 30th, 2011 10:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm kind of interested in the circles and hangouts because it does mirror what I do already with various, well, circles of friends and experts.

I tried Wave for a while, but it seemed like a solution for a problem I didn't have. Google+ looks a bit more promising.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:42 am (UTC) (Link)
It was the circles and hangouts that interested me too. I suppose all will be revealed in due course.
mjlayman From: mjlayman Date: July 1st, 2011 03:07 am (UTC) (Link)
The WashPost thinks it's not good enough yet.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 1st, 2011 10:43 am (UTC) (Link)
I suppose it's early days yet. We'll just have to keep an eye on it and see whether it takes off.
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