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Speculation about the hackers' motives
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It seems that no one really knows who is behind the LiveJournal attacks, but it's thought that whoever it is, they're trying to totally shut down the service.

Well, I'm not going anywhere until LJ folds and every time I get driven away, I intend to come back for as long as there is something to come back to.

Meanwhile, after the experience of the past three or four days, I'm not sure that Dreamwidth makes all that good a bolt hole for when LJ is down. I find it difficult to believe that it was just coincidence that it was performing in a most snail-like manner while LJ was under attack and that now LJ is up and running again DW is back to normal speed. Even if DW wasn't directly attacked, with so many refugees from LJ attempting to backup their journals and crosspost to a non-responsive site, it's no wonder it was running slow.

Anyway, while DW makes the obvious second choice for blogging platform, I have also sussed out how to use my Blogger account and if/when the next attack on LJ occurs, I can also be found on Twitter (mhhall) and on G+ (Helen Hall)

Current Mood: determined determined

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carl_allery From: carl_allery Date: July 29th, 2011 10:52 am (UTC) (Link)
Okay, so if all the Russian political journals move to other platforms, can be have our LJ back? ;)
caper_est From: caper_est Date: July 29th, 2011 01:37 pm (UTC) (Link)
I think I'd rather take some more hits than see the rats win. Also, if they do win, I'd expect the tactic to spread around the world rather than retreating into the Russosphere.

Lots of powerful people in the West (and elsewhere) aren't liking mass global peer-to-peer communication any better than these thugs. And this is an awfully deniable tactic, especially if coupled with a willingness to inflict large amounts of semi-random collateral damage as a smokescreen.

But if the rats succeed in doing nothing but making their cause look worse, and LJ slogs through anyway and wins... then, I think we might get our LJ back for good.

Really, despite this and all of LJ's purely self-chosen annoyances, I am getting very close to springing for a paying membership to help them hire yet more moggies.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 29th, 2011 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've had a paid account more or less since I started using LJ. I actually feel a bit guilty using DW without paying, but I can't really justify it and I have issues with DW so don't feel like it's my permanent home.

I wish there was something positive we could do to support LJ in its time of need, but I will keep paying for my account and using the service for as long as it exists because I'm not being pushed out by people trying to stifle free debate.
carl_allery From: carl_allery Date: July 29th, 2011 05:06 pm (UTC) (Link)
It's going to take pretty much the total shutdown of LJ for me to leave, because I'm quite comfortable and if I lose a few days every few months, I can still cope. I haven't bothered with a paid account because I haven't wanted any of the add-ons, I don't use everything the basic account has.

If I have funds available, I will be considering a paid account as a show of support.
From: zeborahnz Date: July 30th, 2011 02:16 am (UTC) (Link)
DW have said people shouldn't feel guilty about not paying: money helps them, yes, but they're not going to get anyone's subscriptions if there's no content, so every bit of content helps them too.

(They've also explained the slowness: there's a bug in the code which causes a memory leak when there's high demand for the service. So the slowness wasn't *caused* by LJers flooding to DW, but it was *triggered* by it. They haven't finished tracking it down/fixing the bug yet, but they've juggled resources a bunch so the site's working much faster now anyway.)
asakiyume From: asakiyume Date: July 29th, 2011 11:42 am (UTC) (Link)
In a very selfish way, I wish that those of us using the English language services didn't have to become collateral damage in the vagaries of Russian politics, but on the other hand, it shows how interconnected we all really are. I realize other things should show me this--things like climate change, or like how the earthquake in Japan affected auto production elsewhere in the world--but it's something like this, which is an integral part of my daily life, that really shows it to me.

I still can't decide what I'll do if LJ fails. I can't use Google+ or Facebook for blogging, and I don't like the one-thread style of blogging at places like Blogger (or on Word Press blogs). I suppose it means I'll have to get over my dislike of Dreamwidth...
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 29th, 2011 03:07 pm (UTC) (Link)
I know what you mean about thinking, "This isn't my fight! Leave me alone!" but you're right, it does show how interconnected we all are.

If/when it happens again, I'll use Dreamwidth if it holds up (it really didn't this time), but otherwise I'll make use of Twitter and G+ for things that they're good for, and possibly my Blogger blog, which I have never used.
From: aulus_poliutos Date: July 29th, 2011 04:27 pm (UTC) (Link)
Succumb to the lure of Blogger. We have cookies, free photo upload and cool templates. :)

I never got a paid LJ account because LJ doesn't offer what I wanted for my internet platform. The f-lock is fine if you intend to post private stuff, but I never did, and photo upload, template altering (I've pretty much created my own by now), adding sidebar links, comment layout and all is easier on Blogger (at least for me).
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 29th, 2011 07:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm not too fussed about the look of my blog, as long as it's clear and easy to read. For photos I use Flickr, though I have used the LJ photo album for photos that are simply illustrative but not very good photos in their own right.

It's the ability to use f-lock that keeps me on LJ. I don't use it often and I really only use it to keep posts from being Googleable, but I do like being able to limit the audience for posts when necessary.
jongibbs From: jongibbs Date: July 29th, 2011 11:46 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm not leaving either. With almost 40 million blog accounts, I can't see LiveJournal throwing in the towel without a fight.

PS: I followed you on Twitter :)
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 29th, 2011 03:14 pm (UTC) (Link)
Thanks. I've followed you back on Twitter!
blackberry44 From: blackberry44 Date: July 29th, 2011 11:59 am (UTC) (Link)
It seems that no one really knows who is behind the LiveJournal attacks, but it's thought that whoever it is, they're trying to totally shut down the service.

Thanks for publishing that link - it was very interesting. I had no idea LJ was so influential in Russia.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 29th, 2011 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I didn't really know quite how big it was there until the problems in April, though I did know that it was important because that's why the Russian company bought it when the American company wanted to get rid of it. If it weren't for the Russians, there would be no LiveJournal because it would have been closed down.
blackberry44 From: blackberry44 Date: July 29th, 2011 05:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I had no idea! Head in the clouds as usual, I suppose.
karinfromnosund From: karinfromnosund Date: July 29th, 2011 12:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, I think if this happens again, I shall try to refrain from crossposting, since it most likely made matters worse.

It would be sad if we lost Livejournal.
heleninwales From: heleninwales Date: July 29th, 2011 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
I was just glad that I had my LJ backed up onto my own computer so I wasn't panicking trying to import it to Dreamwidth like a lot of people were doing.
blackberry44 From: blackberry44 Date: July 29th, 2011 12:00 pm (UTC) (Link)
I also meant to say that they're not going to chase me away.
caper_est From: caper_est Date: July 29th, 2011 01:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Well said. I think you're right about resilience through multiple platforms, too - though for me that sort of thing is a rapidly-escalating pain to keep in order, and I may have to rethink my methods to make it work effectively.

The upside is that if enough people do manage to make multiplatforming work painlessly, this sort of crap is going to be orders of magnitude harder and chancier to pull off. I hope! :-/
From: joycemocha Date: July 29th, 2011 11:01 pm (UTC) (Link)
I am probably moving over to WordPress and crosspost everything here, primarily because I need to split some things up for promotional purposes (consulting biz and all that stuff, plus indie publishing). But I intend to keep following people here and crossposting over here.
lady_schrapnell From: lady_schrapnell Date: July 31st, 2011 08:22 am (UTC) (Link)
With you on all of the above. I've also followed you on Twitter, though I haven't been up to using that or anywhere else much recently.
birdsedge From: birdsedge Date: August 2nd, 2011 08:02 pm (UTC) (Link)
It seems to have taken me four days longer to get back into LJ than most of you, but I agree that I'll not be leaving LJ until it ceases to exist. I have a music agency blog on wordpress (where I'm 'folkagent'), but LJ is so much more than a blog. Like others the f-locking is important to me. I don't always use it, but I like to know it's there.
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